Hi guys.

here i really like start a good discuss about trading systems and actually, talk about indicator based system benefit ( if have any! ). i think indicator systems based are crap! all of them! i mean come on! did you really expect with a simple changing color from red to green market go up? yes maybe sometimes this crap worked, but if ask me , i will tell you with loud sound, that indicators are faked, they can`t stay alive for a long time.

i don`t use any indicator, my chart is wholly empty! we must learn use indicatorless systems. we really need do that, because if we don`t , sooner or later we lose our money. no one can win with indicator, if anyone said : I CAN! , he/she is a lair.

this is my idea , i really like hear from you guys about this, whats your idea?

fxsignalcomng wrote:Hi guys.

here i really like start a good discuss about trading systems and actually, talk about indicator based system benefit ( if have any! ). i think indicator systems based are crap! all of them! i mean come on! did you really expect with a simple changing color from red to green market go up? yes maybe sometimes this crap worked, but if ask me , i will tell you with loud sound, that indicators are faked, they can`t stay alive for a long time.

i don`t use any indicator, my chart is wholly empty! we must learn use indicatorless systems. we really need do that, because if we don`t , sooner or later we lose our money. no one can win with indicator, if anyone said : I CAN! , he/she is a lair.

this is my idea , i really like hear from you guys about this, whats your idea?

have you ever heard "trendline trading system"? trade following the trend which they said "trend is your friend"..
i have friend really make money watching out that trend indicators..
reach & building up..(pathetic if only he reads this..)
man i advise you not to judge book by covers..even though you might find a right way of trading..but please advise gently (CRAP IS A MEANT WORD)..how about those newbies that just started to light their day up with learning indicators?..(as what what we used to)
let see how far you can do with your "indicatorless" trading system.
if you dare enough to prove, kindly provide us with your investor psswrd for your demo account is sufficient rather than your live account.

josh wrote:

fxsignalcomng wrote:Hi guys.

here i really like start a good discuss about trading systems and actually, talk about indicator based system benefit ( if have any! ). i think indicator systems based are crap! all of them! i mean come on! did you really expect with a simple changing color from red to green market go up? yes maybe sometimes this crap worked, but if ask me , i will tell you with loud sound, that indicators are faked, they can`t stay alive for a long time.

i don`t use any indicator, my chart is wholly empty! we must learn use indicatorless systems. we really need do that, because if we don`t , sooner or later we lose our money. no one can win with indicator, if anyone said : I CAN! , he/she is a lair.

this is my idea , i really like hear from you guys about this, whats your idea?

have you ever heard "trendline trading system"? trade following the trend which they said "trend is your friend"..
i have friend really make money watching out that trend indicators..
reach & building up..(pathetic if only he reads this..)
man i advise you not to judge book by covers..even though you might find a right way of trading..but please advise gently (CRAP IS A MEANT WORD)..how about those newbies that just started to light their day up with learning indicators?..(as what what we used to)
let see how far you can do with your "indicatorless" trading system.
if you dare enough to prove, kindly provide us with your investor psswrd for your demo account is sufficient rather than your live account.

hi josh , i really like your name! with all respect , you`re wrong , i don`t want disappoint newbies, i just want warn them , this is not the right way. i don`t want to say that i`m the master of trading , but i have a lot expriance , i try all of this indicators ( ok i don`t use crap word for indicator ) , but they can`t stay aliv for long time dude.

you right , maybe there are some traders that use indicators and make money , but what i try to say is indicators based systems don`t work for long time. and what is exactly a indicator based system? is a system that just focus to indicator behavior, let me tell you a little story , we have friends! trader friends. i have a lot friends that use indicator based system`s one of them was good, and one day , i think was 7 or 8 month ago, maybe was in June or July , EURUSD rate was around 1.2230 , he start selling EURUSD , and why? because his indicator`s turn red! and other indicator go under the line and bella bella bella .... yes , he sell EURUSD and just next week , BAAAAAMB , EURUSD reach around 1.2600 and next week reach to 1.2900. he lose his money, because of what? because of indicators. if you just use indicator for trading ,your account will be call margin for good!

and about your offer about DEMO account , i don`t want prove anything, i just wanna say be careful guy`s, don`t trust %100 to indicators because they are not psych! however i have a website that share my trades , you and others can go there and keep watching.

well let them judge that..
"indicator vs no indicator"

hehehehe

how about those who trade by using EA?
which category they might be???

:-)

josh wrote:how about those who trade by using EA?
which category they might be???

:-)

about EA traders , i know program language, we can write great software with programing language , like 3Ds max , Photoshop or Windows , ... but we can`t create a program that trade FOREX for us and make money. why? because EA use some command like If else condition and other stuff and use indicator`s value , or other value like high and low prices and ...yes we can creat a EA that in backtesting give us %100 profit result , but this is fake, because we don`t have any idea what will happen in future. so why we suppose to trust EAs? they use same things! they use values from past, forex market move forward , here it is : PARADOX!